The Daily Meme #476!
The standard in the hive is original content every time.
It's not rocket science.
If you post content from other places onto your hive blog, and you don't decline/burn rewards, then you got to expect flags.
It's just what the flaggots do.
We try to keep the pool free of spam.
One category of spam is reposting content.
Even if it is your own content, you only get to monetize it once.
Now, the reality is that the anti-abuse community is underpowered.
We need much more hp to clean the hive completely.
If you would join a downvote trail, that would help.
Are you are tired of paying your masters to bomb children in far away places?
Perhaps it is time you pushed back on that.
A simple way that anybody can do that is to hoard your coins.
A dollar of change in your pocket is a dollar of value out of the banksters' pockets that force us to pay them so they can play in the amusement parks from hell and shop in the human grocery stores.
'Aint that fresh?'
Metal in your own possession will always have more intrinsic value than digits on a bankster's ledger.
What's so civil about war, anyway?
That is all, for now, you may resume your otherwise mundane day.
To contest the characterization of your day as mundane, make a post of your own explaining why your day is not mundane and ping me, eh?
We are having a membership drive in these discords, tell your friends.
If you want a voice in the consensus join them, and be one.
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Appeal blacklist flags here.
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Get your flag reviewed for redemption.
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You know, what they sold us on to get us here.
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Newb friendly chat.
@irivers' list of discord servers.
@irivers does hive website reviews.
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Well informed newb friendly chat.
Hive Official: https://discord.gg/SUwJ2s2
Central focal point of much of the hive.
Dlux.io: https://discord.gg/mdJRstcFWg
Building the holodeck in 3d VR.
The Pulse: https://discord.gg/3M2gRr5
Alternatives to the groupthinc.
Klye's server: https://discord.gg/KyJyQxzRJ7
When your day just doesn't have enough Klye in it.
These are public rooms managed by private people for the benefit of everybody using this blockchain.
What they do is voluntary, but openly public.
Don't abuse their willingness to work for the collective for what little we give them, eh?
Without them, none of this exists.
source
Billy Jack, the movie.
The Trial of Billy Jack.
Billy Jack goes to Washington.
ummm people who obsesively repeat the same ideas but with the different words disagree :P
It's the different words that are the trick.
There are only so many ideas out there, finding a new one is rare.
However, taking the same work and reposting it is something different.
Especially when done to defraud the pool.
It is the work not being redone that gets them flagged.
The commodification of work is perfectly acceptable in crapitalism.
It writes the book once, and cashes in thousands of times.
The crowds lap that stuff up.
It is a form of manipulation when you get good enough at engineering it.
It is much harder to make a new way of selling the same idea, ie, work.
If we don't like it, we can always buy more stake and change how things are.
and I'm trying my best to keep things fresh like an idiot, with new templates and stuff to talk about :)
You must want followers, or sumthin'.
nah, just want to make people smile in a sea of pretentious posts
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I am with downvote as long as it is used for abusing of HIVE rules.
From what I am getting the sense of now that I started interacting more with the community is that because of all the abuse that has happened many are quick to assume malign intention. There are some cases where it is a noob or someone that just didn’t think whatever they did was a bad thing where it would be good to investigate a little and let them know exactly what they are doing wrong and try not to just destroy them immediately, scaring off creators. I was looking through all the creators on vigilante.tv this morning and found quite a lot that has Hive accounts but are not posting anymore because they were either hammered on Hive or on Steemit and just didn’t want to go on Hive since it is the same whales. I will try and bring them back though.
If you could do that it would be great.
The 'community' back then was far more centralized.
Before the fork anybody that dissented from the autonomous rule of one 'bad whale' was summarily wiped from the pool.
Many people felt his wrath.
That is no longer the situation.
Now we have 'mean whales' that mostly stick to the abusive aspects of flagging.
Upvoting abuse is as much a problem as downvoting.
Few large accounts have/take the time to check for abuse, this is why the community initiatives are so important, average users shouldn't have to check for abuse.
We have the tools, and the people, to keep it in check.
We could use more hp, though.
The rule in the hive is that you can upvote/downvote for any reason whatsoever, and the instances of abuse of that are rare, in my experience.
Any of those folks that mention hive on their shows are a win in my book.
As long as they don't repeat content they should have a pleasant experience this time.
'The community' is much more rational at this moment in time.
I don’t know how it was on HIVE in the beginning but as I just mentioned in a post by @daltono I feel like there is more of an effort here to make some communities within Hive to try and regulate everything in a fair manor in contrast to Steemit that was... Well, really bad.
Hive is a different critter than steemit.
Steemit was a creature of stinc that reset the chain to make sure they controlled the coin.
Hive is more decentralized than that.
The bad whale and bid bots were the first to go.
Stinc gave us linear rewards, bidbots(pay to play), and a two year walkabout by the devs.
Their philosophy was that abusers strengthened the system by presenting issues to be solved by the community, but when they facilitated the abuse they became the issue.
Communities allow us to silo ourselves, I was against them.
Still am, we should learn to work together, imo.
I do see their utility for content aggregation.
No need to look in the hive motors community if I want latte art.
Same with the peertube frontends, great for content locating, but not at the expense of the plagiarism rules.
If we let folks just copy/paste from the web our content would soon be as lacking in value as fedbook or tiktok content.
Of no value outside the intelligence community.
Were the price of hive to moon again payouts get stupid real quick.
If that value goes to folks that did an honest day's work it is a good thing, but if it goes to low effort posts, potentially stolen from the original creator, what is the value of that?
I agree that content not created by the poster can bring value to the chain, but the consensus is that we want proof of brain to be a thing, and that requires original content creators posting original content.
It also means interacting with the commenters.
I've had to stop voting an original creator that creates high value content, mentions the hive in every video, is exactly the type of creator we are looking for, but he is powering down everything we gave him and sending it out to an exchange.
He has a rep over 70 and next to nothing in hive power.
I wish I could sing his praises, but he has sold us down the river.
I have seen some of that. My motives was questioned in a Discord channel by a person worrying it was to get a quick payout. We have never withdrawn accept 1500 hive in 2019, can’t remember why. We are powering up and the only time I powered it down was to get some Hive to try out the Peakd new promotional tool. When I looked at the users account (rep70, I will not mention his name since I don’t want to start anything, just to note I am seeing these things) I saw that he withdraws every week and only has 1.8k Hive Power.
How do you know if the whales just aren't checking or they just are allowing. I reported an account when I was on discord. At the time this person was doing short stints making five, six bucks a stint. Nothing ever happened. Now that account, who by force is on a traveling spree right now, has taken to writing stuff on other area's that don't include her new travels. I know it's them just as I can often times associate multiple avatars as being the same person by their writing style. In their instance they have a quirky opening usually attached. That person highlighted some of the stuff from the article they got the info from but also rephrased or used exact lines from the same article which make it appear they wrote it because it wasn't highlighted. Barely anyone actually reads anybody's stuff, in my opinion, most is just done by upvote trails, with that said chances that anybody is going to click on the link the info came from is slim to none. But hey, they are still making better than five, six or more a post while others, like myself, write original content for pennies on the dollar most times. When stuff like that is allowed to go on it's disheartening to those who work hard at it and it's pretty much a no go to ask them to help fight something that isn't adding up when no one stepped up to stop it in the beginning. If I was making five, six bucks a post I could be real motivated to write everyday, every other day at least. I've been here twice as long as the other account and comparison wise wouldn't say my writing skills were any less of theirs but here I am making pennies while they are making dollars. That's why I spent more time blogging on other platforms than here. The motivation is lacking, you know how many pennies it takes to get to a million? Yeah. That's the problem, they'll be way out ahead of me.
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Drop your links in #reviewforflagging and they will get looked at by the flaggots.
It takes community effort to keep our customs and traditions working, that includes all stakeholders.
If you want more attention, most people get it by commenting on the posts of others and being active in the various discords.
ah ha.. u mean power up the FLAGGOTS?! :P
but not all downvote trail seem to good, is there a few that u would suggest?
can I just delegate to those trails or do I have to be downvoting on my own?
Best to just follow them, there are accounts that can be delegated to, but there is no need to give up your hp when you can just follow with your two free flags a day.
Set your cut off low, I use 15%, and watch to make sure they don't flag something you disagree with.
Traciyork, erikah, enforcer48, cwow2, steemflagrewards, slobberchops, azircon, themarkymark, and steevc are all safe to follow, imo.
I have 73 accounts that I follow, but I follow them with an alt account and a dustvote just to see what is getting flagged in the hive.
All the accounts listed above, except az and tmm, I follow with this account and they keep my downvote mana on 15% most of the time.
I didn't choose the flaggot life. The flaggot life chose me.
@stimialiti shamed me into joining the flaggots.
I wish @anthonyadavisii would get the bot and the coin back together so people could buy the coin to support us if they are too afraid to follow a trail.
Maybe next year.
Think 2023 will be a better year for this. Lot going in 2022 for the Davis fam.
When you get ready we might have enough stroke to get the proposal past the gatekeepers this time.
No reason you should do all that work for free.
MaaS is needed here, the community should support paying for it, imo.
I love how you turned it into a term of endearment.😂
ok, I hope I set that up right..
i decided to add 1 more..
If you are going to use scale, rather than fixed, you should raise the percentage.
As you have it set if they vote 100% you will vote 15%, if they vote 10% you will vote 1.5%.
Set your threshold at 15 or 20% and you are set.
Setting your cutoff lower could result in hitting your upvote mana due to it not being exact on the cutoff.
It's found in the dashboard.
I tend to crosspost a lot, but I at least engage with the community. Some people who crosspost don't engage at all. I think context should be considered.
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Engagement is important on a social networking site that pays you to do it.
It's one more aspect of the game.
Anti-spam fight. This would be great for Hive
Follow some flaggots with the downvote trail on hive.vote if you want to contibute.
Lol, I had a lot of daja vu going on when the switch over from steam to hive happened. I guess because I am a creature of habit there is certain accounts I've followed pretty closely since being on the blockchain. I think that's where I lost interest in a couple as I swear I'd done read something they posted here before, or they used the same pictures detailing them into a different story. That just sort of goes to credibility of the people involved, especially if it was a life story journey type thing in the original post.
Recycling is frowned upon in the hive, if you can present the evidence in the hive-dr discord it will get looked at.