The Daily Meme #482!
If they decide to fork the chain, again, do you think that this time we, the regular users, could just double up on our great fortune to have been offered rewards for our mind droppings?
Or, do you think the fork that loses most of its users will be so small minded as to not allow that?
'It's loyalty or nothing!'
You will have to decide for you how that splits down and which chain is worth the effort to follow.
I don't think a peaceful divorce will be possible while retribution is available to the control freaks.
Are you are tired of paying your masters to bomb children in far away places?
Perhaps it is time you pushed back on that.
A simple way that anybody can do that is to hoard your coins.
A dollar of change in your pocket is a dollar of value out of the banksters' pockets that force us to pay them so they can play in the amusement parks from hell and shop in the human grocery stores.
'Aint that fresh?'
Metal in your own possession will always have more intrinsic value than digits on a bankster's ledger.
What's so civil about war, anyway?
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Billy Jack, the movie.
The Trial of Billy Jack.
Billy Jack goes to Washington.
Would you ask a refuge what they would do if they decided to "move" again?
We did not "decide" to fork.
We were punted off our own network by a megalomaniac vulture capitalist.
As if forking is something that we can just decide to do whenever it suits us?
There isn't going to be another fork.
There's no way to get the consensus required for such a thing.
To quote @theycallmedan, it requires an "alien invasion".
And if we have to go through that again, blog rewards are the least of everyone's concerns.
Perhaps we should be looking at better ways to build value that don't require permission.
That's the entire point of crypto.
Clearly, a decision was made or hive wouldn't be here.
The circumstances that precipitated that decision would vary in any future similar decisions.
Tell it to blurt, eh?
IF somebody with enough reputation in the community decided to breakaway there is no stopping them.
Can we get our current crop of whales to go along with a split, maybe, maybe not, but any split would likely have to take at least one of them with it.
Splinterlands is a good example.
We gave aggie the back of our hands and he separated as much as he could.
The same could be said for a number of other active users just as influential.
I mean blurt would have been more successful with a couple tweaks to its reality.
The firestick killed golos or we would have an already working model.
I should probably look to see what they are up to, I'm sure the chain is still running.
As you are fond of saying, we aren't competing within open source software, we are complementing.
Oh using my own words against me, eh?
That's fair.
I feel like Blurt is exactly the kind of thing that proves my point.
That was a completely illegitimate chain from the start.
There was no way to avoid forking out stake and keeping the governance decentralized.
Here is the Blurt thought process:
A few 'tweaks'?
You can't just say that without backing it up. The chain was dead on arrival. It capitalized on the emotions of the hostile takeover and tricked people that didn't know any better into believing it was a viable solution. It wasn't. It never was. It never could be. The only way to cut out cancer from a DPOS chain is to fork that power out of the system. Once it happens a dozen more times on other platforms this will become much more obvious. Books will be written about it. Luckily when it happened to us it wasn't a Sybil attack and all the stake we needed to get rid of was all stored in obviously identifiable containers.
I have to agree that the second layer is arguably going to become even more important than the main chain. All tokens and smart contracts are going to be outsourced to it. I mean at the end of the day all we can do is be patient and grind forward. Bear markets hurt but shit also gets done.
I totally agree with your statements about blurt, it is why I never put any energy into it.
The tweaks I was referencing were a different dev team and a different approach to flags.
It is what it is, and there isn't much chance to change it now.
I hope they iron it all out, but until then, it is not for me.
The second layer is waiting on the first layer to price out more people.
At some point hive becomes all about the rc's.
As you said, one good app and rc's suddenly become real valuable.
My main gripe right now is that we are continuing to do the same things we did when stinc was calling the shots.
Not surprising when one considers that most of the powered up stake we have now was favored by stinc back then.
Pictures of latte art, travel blogs, and makeup posts get the most rewards from the curation gangs.
Most of whom were put in place by stinc stake favoring them over supporting those that hodl, but had more 'controversial' content.
Many of those favored authors are dumping/have dumped.
The crab bucket is not improved by circle jerking gangs, iyam.
Our reputation in the market is not improved by supporting speech that is already popular.
Look what they did to @baah.
He spoke his piece, to the point of annoyance for some, and now he is behind a click wall.
Not much support of free speech happening there.
Instead of muting him and not seeing his rants, they went punitive, crushed his rep, and disallowed the rewards from support he did get.
If that isn't a clear warning to all small stakeholders, I don't know what is.
We all know there are more of their victims we could speak about, most of whom dug their own graves with emotional responses and ineffectual tactics against powers they had no chance to defeat with power of their own.
Do you think prospective buyers don't see that as a warning sign?
At any moment you could say something that wipes you from the pool.
You are not free in the hive to put forth your facts without risking your future here.
Do you think that crushing dissent is a good way to make people feel welcome and free to speak their piece?
Let's ask @cyberdemon531 how welcome they feel to speak their piece.
There is more that can be done to attract/retain new users than rewarding those that bend over to the curation powers that be (largely endowed by stinc stake) and crushing those that speak out about things they don't like.
Don't get me wrong, things are much better now than before the fork to hive, I never would have spoken up on chain back then for the very reasons we are discussing now.
As the wider world is finding out, centralizing power into fewer and fewer hands is a recipe for tyranny.
Which is what is currently happening through who gets voted the most rewards.
Not a good way to bootstrap a currency as demonstrated by our failure to dominate the marketplace as a better alternative to what is out there.
I think we will be better served by spreading hive to diamond hands rather than 'popular' 'feel good' content.
We very much have a golden goose here, if we can manage to not kill it.
I mean... I see most people saying exactly the opposite.
About how much has changed and how much progress is being made.
Looking at the trending tab right now, this statement doesn't appear to be super accurate.
I mean at the end of the day if there is a simple (or even complicated) way to improve distribution, why has nothing been built to reflect that. It isn't like there is some project floating around that would fix these problems but is being suppressed by the old guard. It's a lot easier to criticize how things work than to actually come up with viable solutions.
Again, my focus is elsewhere.
I don't think trying to optimize blog reward distribution is worth the effort. There are so many other doors that can be opened that create exponentially more value in an exponentially more permissionless (less subjective) way.
I'm not trying to be contrarian right now but I don't think we can talk our way out of this one.
No amount of theory-crafting can fix the current situation.
Actual infrastructure needs to get built and tested in the field.
All comes down to needing more devs in the end. Always more devs.
Yeah, more users solves most of our problems.
I have big hopes for hf26 contributing to that goal.
I was just looking at trending, too.
You are correct, things continue to get better, even on trending.
I actually found an account to follow with my dust voter, that hasn't happened in a long time.
I'll have to let go of some of my older issues as not relevant any more.
This account is just above the click wall, can you push it behind it before its rc's regenerate and they start spamming again?
I don't have enough mana to do it myself.
It's rep only needs to drop from 1.46 to 0, you can likely do it with one downvote.
pamofe4776
lol wtf
Those people have taken over minds, it's hard to find a post without one of those comments.
you can drop rep by downvoting a $0 comment?
must have forgotten that was possible
Yes, reputation still gets hit when it goes below zero rewards.
Had to 100% downvote three times
crazy that I've never done that before.
Wow, I thought you would have more stroke than that.
Thank you for helping out, my normal pool for downvotes was tapped out.
to be fair i didn't check the number after downvoting twice
I'm seeing -.56, I doubt they will get enough upvotes to cross back over into visibility.
oh my, is there really a fork coming up? so things will be like when hive split from steemit? and we choose which one to go with? 😮🤐😜
I doubt that one can be managed at this point, not enough people angry with what we have.
It would take somebody influential to break ranks.
I'm not sure that we are large enough to split the community successfully.
Just not enough users to fight over.
Never say never.
I had a post of my own and now I got downvoted by a steam user.
Unless the downvotes are taking all of your rewards just ignore them.
When you have more community support than flaggots you get to keep the rewards.
So, get out there and make some friends.
that was the first negative vote, and that's me.
you see there is my proof
@hivewatchers
Yes, just put out original content regularly and you won't have to worry about getting downvoted and your audience will grow.
I don't know whether there is an upcoming fork, but I agree that something in it should be in favor of us, the regular users.
We have it pretty good, actually.
Much better than when it was
steemit.What we need most is more users.
Right, more users who will be able to adopt HIVE and stay here for a long time.
It's not every day a golden goose falls in your lap.
stocking fires of rebellion I see :)
Meh, just another day in the gold mine.
Working my fingers to the bones, and what do I get, bony fingers,...
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