Web 3.0 Is Lame - Where's Web 4.0?

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The similarities from Web 1.0 and Web 3.0 are pretty striking if you think about it.

Web 1.0 was based on individuals who were tech savvy enough to build a website with one way communication. The website owner could push out information to the reader and it was mostly the responsibility of the reader to keep themselves up to date on what was going on the various websites they followed. Videos and images were small to non-existent because an image or video hosted on 1.0 was very expensive and took a long time to load.

Then we got web 2.0. This is when we got more of an ability for multimedia and two way communication on websites. As people could input more data and were more able to use media that made it easy to get more information across in a shorter amount of time like photos and videos, the website owner as influencer was quickly replaced by the curated person with no technical savvy as influencer. Now instead of having to build a website, an influencer could just create a profile and could interact with millions of people on one of the many platforms.

Within a few years this was made even easier as smartphones with cameras allowed direct uploads of real-time content and this allowed for platforms like instagram to be born.

On Web 2.0 it was easy to keep up with what was going on with those you follow because it's all in the same place and algorithms pushed stuff they knew you were interested in as you scrolled.

But what about Web 3.0? Well, we're back to influencers being those tech savvy enough to build on the blockchain. Blockchains are also often slow, expensive, and don't hold much information. Most NFT's for instance aren't held on chain and rely on web 2.0 infrastructure to make them work. Similarly, most communication is done on web 2.0.

On Web 3.0 it is mostly up to you to keep up with what's going on again because most platforms have nothing built in to keep track. Are you into NFT's? You not only need to watch the NFT's but you also need to be on 25 discords, twitter, telegram, and reddit. Hope you don't miss anything because catching up is tough.

So this all begs the question, is web 3.0 just a step on the way to Web 4.0 where the real magic happens?

It seems likely.

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The operators doing V2K with remote neural monitoring want me to believe this lady @battleaxe is an operator. She is involved in the same discord groups around @fyrstikken and friends. Her discord is Battleaxe#1003. Shes in some groups with seemingly detached characters that dont even acknowledge the others in the group, looking oddly staged. She starts projects and does nothing with it or the delegations after its used to sway people. Like @steempowertwins does<------fake along with her @teamgood <------fake. No substance in her comments and has a following that adores her for what? Life coach she is not nor is she insightful with any meaningful skills to follow. Ruler of pixie dust maybe? I would like for someone to show me but probably wont out fear maybe? @fyrstikken groups around him down voted me into censored and not viewable on my accounts as soon I told what they were doing.
I cant prove @battleaxe is the one directly doing the V2K and RNM. Doing it requires more than one person at the least. It cant be done alone. She cant prove she is not one of the ones doing V2K because she cant and could care less. I guarantee she knows this is going around and still wont prove it because she cant. Many of us here can prove what they have been doing to survive the past 5 years. What does she live off of? It definitely isnt in public view here.

I was drugged in my home covertly, it ended badly. They have been trying to kill me using RNM with applied V2K mental games while revealing as many accessories to the crime as they can. I bet nobody does anything at all. Ask @battleaxe to prove it. I bet she wont. Pretty serious accusations to just blow off and leave the crypto community hanging in fear of this danger.

They want me to believe the V2K and RNM in me is being broadcast from her location. And what the fuck is "HOMELAND SECURITY" doing about this shit? I think stumbling over their own dicks maybe? Just like they did and are doing with the Havana Syndrome. They should start by looking at the communications between the top witnesses of Hive and the connection to @fyrstikken groups. Google his fucking name and see where his other interests lie around at least once maybe? The connections between @fyrstikken groups and all the exchanges built for Hive? Bet that would reveal some crazy ball less nutty shit. Homeland security should start preparing for their own incarcerations seeing how sloppy this was done. Patriot act my ass. Think we are really fools? Bad position your not getting out of. Dont be last to blow the whistle. Who will protect you?

People in and around @fyrstikkens groups are reckless and should have shown the proper media what they had before taking me hostage for 5 long torturing years and counting. That is a long time to wait for someone to die.

What would you say while having a gun pointed at your head from an undisclosed location? Have people find it? My hands are tied while they play like children with a gun to my head. Its a terrorist act on American soil while some yawn and say its not real or Im a mental case. Many know its real. This is an ignored detrimental to humanity domestic threat. Ask informed soldiers in the American military what their oath is and why nothing is being done. Nobody has I guess. Maybe someone told ill informed soldiers they cant protect America from military leaders in control that have ill intent. How do we protect locked up soldiers prevented from telling the truth from being treated as criminals? Not to mention civilians we let our leaders treat the same way. https://ecency.com/fyrstikken/@fairandbalanced/i-am-the-only-motherfucker-on-the-internet-pointing-to-a-direct-source-for-voice-to-skull-electronic-terrorism-terrorism

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The operators doing V2K with remote neural monitoring want me to believe this lady @battleaxe is an operator. She is involved in the same discord groups around @fyrstikken and friends. Her discord is Battleaxe#1003. Shes in some groups with seemingly detached characters that dont even acknowledge the others in the group, looking oddly staged. She starts projects and does nothing with it or the delegations after its used to sway people. Like @steempowertwins does<------fake along with her @teamgood <------fake. No substance in her comments and has a following that adores her for what? Life coach she is not nor is she insightful with any meaningful skills to follow. Ruler of pixie dust maybe? I would like for someone to show me but probably wont out fear maybe? @fyrstikken groups around him down voted me into censored and not viewable on my accounts as soon I told what they were doing.
I cant prove @battleaxe is the one directly doing the V2K and RNM. Doing it requires more than one person at the least. It cant be done alone. She cant prove she is not one of the ones doing V2K because she cant and could care less. I guarantee she knows this is going around and still wont prove it because she cant. Many of us here can prove what they have been doing to survive the past 5 years. What does she live off of? It definitely isnt in public view here.

I was drugged in my home covertly, it ended badly. They have been trying to kill me using RNM with applied V2K mental games while revealing as many accessories to the crime as they can. I bet nobody does anything at all. Ask @battleaxe to prove it. I bet she wont. Pretty serious accusations to just blow off and leave the crypto community hanging in fear of this danger.

They want me to believe the V2K and RNM in me is being broadcast from her location. And what the fuck is "HOMELAND SECURITY" doing about this shit? I think stumbling over their own dicks maybe? Just like they did and are doing with the Havana Syndrome. They should start by looking at the communications between the top witnesses of Hive and the connection to @fyrstikken groups. Google his fucking name and see where his other interests lie around at least once maybe? The connections between @fyrstikken groups and all the exchanges built for Hive? Bet that would reveal some crazy ball less nutty shit. Homeland security should start preparing for their own incarcerations seeing how sloppy this was done. Patriot act my ass. Think we are really fools? Bad position your not getting out of. Dont be last to blow the whistle. Who will protect you?

People in and around @fyrstikkens groups are reckless and should have shown the proper media what they had before taking me hostage for 5 long torturing years and counting. That is a long time to wait for someone to die.

What would you say while having a gun pointed at your head from an undisclosed location? Have people find it? My hands are tied while they play like children with a gun to my head. Its a terrorist act on American soil while some yawn and say its not real or Im a mental case. Many know its real. This is an ignored detrimental to humanity domestic threat. Ask informed soldiers in the American military what their oath is and why nothing is being done. Nobody has I guess. Maybe someone told ill informed soldiers they cant protect America from military leaders in control that have ill intent. How do we protect locked up soldiers prevented from telling the truth from being treated as criminals? Not to mention civilians we let our leaders treat the same way. https://ecency.com/fyrstikken/@fairandbalanced/i-am-the-only-motherfucker-on-the-internet-pointing-to-a-direct-source-for-voice-to-skull-electronic-terrorism-terrorism

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The term "Web 2.0" was a marketing gimmick created by a marketing department for a computer conference. The term "Web 3.0" is a marketing gimmick made up by people wanting to sell crypto.

My guess is that there is a marketing department somewhere that will use the term to sell some sort of product or technology.

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Most names of things we know and even many of our ways of life were created in marketing firms to sell something. I use it because it's an easy marker we mostly understand.

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I think you're looking at the surface but not noticing the substance. The way you describe it is web 2.0 was like web 1.0 but the nerds didn't have the capital to do what big businesses investing their resources could do. That's a rather simplistic analysis.

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I'm having trouble connecting your comment to what I wrote or the intentions behind my words. Can you elaborate on what I missed in substance you think I should have added? Thanks.

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O>k. Breaking it down starting with paragraph #2. Going back to first paragraph at the end.
This will take several replies.

You wrote:

Web 1.0 was based on individuals who were tech savvy enough to build a website with one way communication. The website owner could push out information to the reader and it was mostly the responsibility of the reader to keep themselves up to date on what was going on the various websites they followed. Videos and images were small to non-existent because an image or video hosted on 1.0 was very expensive and took a long time to load.

I assume here you are referring to static webpages. You're probably not counting when the Domain Name System was established with TLDs like .com starting in 1985. I think what you count as "web 1.0" begins with the first page of thw World Wide Web in 1991 (http://info.cern.ch). I believe you're starting in 1991 because "a website with one way communication" would exclude the USENET and BBSs (Bulletin Board Systems) which had already been established during the 1980s.

The way I read that paragraph your "web 1.0" seems to be static WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) pages which were coded with HTML.

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You wrote also:

Then we got web 2.0. This is when we got more of an ability for multimedia and two way communication on websites. As people could input more data and were more able to use media that made it easy to get more information across in a shorter amount of time like photos and videos, the website owner as influencer was quickly replaced by the curated person with no technical savvy as influencer. Now instead of having to build a website, an influencer could just create a profile and could interact with millions of people on one of the many platforms.

O.K. Roughly 1995ish now with what "web 2.0" beginning seems to be for you I believe. Yahoo! Geocities. Very crude search engines. Instead of static WYSIWYG "influencers" got a template provided by a service provider. Companies could afford to buy servers and with government cooperation worked out larger pipelines in networks for data transmission. The millions of interactions was a much lter phenomenon of web 2.0. Even by the year 2002 thousands of visitors to a site each month was considerably impressive.

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You also wrote:

On Web 2.0 it was easy to keep up with what was going on with those you follow because it's all in the same place and algorithms pushed stuff they knew you were interested in as you scrolled.

I am not sure what "it's all in the same place" is supposed to mean. Maybe how many sites allow users to sign in with a Facebook or Google account and the Google and Facebook algorithms "pushed stuff" even though you weren't on either platform and using a different site with the signin from those platforms?

But what about Web 3.0? Well, we're back to influencers being those tech savvy enough to build on the blockchain. Blockchains are also often slow, expensive, and don't hold much information. Most NFT's for instance aren't held on chain and rely on web 2.0 infrastructure to make them work. Similarly, most communication is done on web 2.0.

That's not a step back though. Blockchains are "slow" but that's on purpose. Some blockchains are faster than others. It's not the same as thing as dial-up Internet access which had limitations due to telephone lines.

Dion't worry about NFTs on hive-engine. Those are stored on IPFS. Not sure if you count IPFS decentralization as "web 2.0" but it's better than an Ethereum project minting using Google Cloud.

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Finally,

The similarities from Web 1.0 and Web 3.0 are pretty striking if you think about it.

Not really. Web 2.0 maybe more so to web 3.0 but web 1.0 is radically different from web 3.0. For paradigms maybe there is parallel but the implementation and underlying technology are radically different. Think of it this way: If you buy a digital AM/FM radio off Amazon today and go back in time to early 1940s Los Angeles you'd still be able to receive a radio signal from KNX 1070 like you could in 2022 but the circuitry of your 2022 radio would still be radically different from any 1943 radio even though both have on the surface an antenna, speaker, and dial and both receive the same radio broadcast.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. That's an impressive amount of knowledge you have on these technologies. I'm curious what your history with it all is?

So as you alluded to, the various generations of the internet are given different bookends by different people and organizations.

The one I subscribe to and was writing about here is one I think is probably most popularly accepted by most laymen and social scholars. Web 1.0 is about 1995 to 2004.

This is the time frame in which "the commercial internet" blossomed starting with secure credit card protocols, the introduction of netscape, windows 95, etc. Before 1995 most people had never heard of the internet but by the end of the 90's it could be assumed that most people in "first-world" nations had probably been online at least once. By 2004 it could be assumed most people in those same nations had not only been online but probably had a connected computer in their home, office, or both.

It was the onboarding period.

This is also the time when even though non-tech-savvy people were going online, most content was still one way communication created by website owners and text was the major format since high quality photos, videos, and streaming were still just too big for the dominant technology to handle effectively. I remember taking all day uploading a 10 minute video to a website I built in 2001 before having to delete it because it took up all of my allotted server space.

I was mystified when youtube came out a few years later.

Web 2.0 (2004+) is the period when collaborative, user-generated content started becoming more normalized and you didn't have to build a website to do it. This has also been called the social web.

This is the period of blogs, facebook, twitter, youtube, wikipedia, etc.

Most people logged on to facebook and got it pretty quickly. They didn't need to learn html/css or a complex WYSIWYG editor to post a picture, share a news article, or gain a following for personal or business reasons. They could onboard their parents and grandparents with not much issue.

The defining features of the social web though were that multidirectional communication and interactivity was built into almost everything and more options for expression such as high res photos, streaming, blogs, quick short-form notes, and video were becoming more distributable and consumable by everyone.

Web 3.0 is a strange beast because no one has yet agreed what the real defining features are. When people began discussing what they thought it would one day be there wasn't crypto and most of us assumed it would be a linear path forward from 2 to 3 and then from 3 to 4.

The idea of W3 was more about people interacting with the actual internet through bots in a way where we would tell it what to do and the bot would react and even create things for us that others could interact with. In that way, normal people would drive engagement through apps we shared ownership in because our bots created them.

The ownership aspect of that last paragraph is why I think the crypto crowd jumped on the 3.0 marketing. But the rest of it doesn't really fit because Web 3 is not a linear progression from web 2 like many expected it to be.
It's a rebuilding of both the tech and the social expectations that underlie what our physical and digital worlds and will be.

It's like a web 1 do over.

And in this web 1 do over there's a new learning period. There's a new onboarding period. There's a time when only those who understand the tech and how to utilize it have a chance to create with it and that's not many people compared to web 2 users.

When this do over of web 1 has its web 2 moment, instead of bringing in video and two way communication, its going to transform the digital and physical world by allowing the masses to create interactive 3 dimensional spaces and objects as well as bots to help us create our ambitions and complete mundane tasks.

I probably went outside the scope of our conversation but I just find this stuff so interesting. I might turn this into a post.

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Before 1995 most people had never heard of the internet but by the end of the 90's it could be assumed that most people in "first-world" nations had probably been online at least once.

First I want to make one thing clear: "Mandela effect" is not a real thing. Please do not reply that your memories somehow prove you are from a different timeline. Please don't be one of them.😄

Here are three examples of how before 1995 most people didn't have access to but were aware of the internet existing:

The October 26, 1993 issue of the New York Times: "One of the technologies Vice President Al Gore is pushing is the information superhighway, which will link everyone at home or office to everything else—movies and television shows, shopping services, electronic mail and huge collections of data." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway

"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon caption published by The New Yorker on July 5, 1993.

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CompuServe 1993 commercial and Prodigy 1990 commercial - Competition in the marketplace!

Bonus fourth example. Season one of Weird Science TV series 1994. I recommend it.😁

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The Mandella effect may not be real but the baader-meinhof phenomenon is. That's where a person learns about something and suddenly they notice it all around them. The thing they learned about has always been there surrounding them but their brain completely ignored it until they had a connection to it and a reason to care.

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And the reason the phenomenon can be real is because humans selectively notice and absorb information and we tend to not notice things that don't affect us or connect with our interests even if its put in front of us several times. Even if it's in a show we watch or a newspaper we read or a commercial we saw.

It's been found several times in polls that anywhere from 20-40% of Americans don't even know who the vice president is at any given time. Yet the VP's name is regularly in the news and the name is plastered everywhere during the year long election cycles.

Here's an example. In 2010 Pew Research asked 3500 people questions about religion, science, and politics to see what religion had more informed people. When they asked people to write in the Vice President's name only 59% of them could do it. To be fair, when they did this in 2007, a much larger 69% of people correctly said Dick Cheney after he'd been vice president for 7 years. Still 31% couldn't do it.
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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey-who-knows-what-about-religion/#Nonreligious

Most people have no idea what's going on around them but you think people filed away that Al Gore said the government cared that one day we might have electronic mail which to that point had proven to be useful to almost no one ever?

Yes, I'm connecting my memories and its coloring my opinions here but its likely you are doing the same thing. I was also born in 1979 and I also had a computer class in middle school but you might as well have named it typing class because that's what it was. Nothing was connected. You were probably one of the first 10 million people on the planet to ever get on the internet. And that's amazing but you're experience colored your view of the time as well.

I'll go ahead and check out the weird science show. I watched the movie several times as a kid but never saw the show !LOLZ

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. That's an impressive amount of knowledge you have on these technologies. I'm curious what your history with it all is?

I was born in 1979 so I am old enough to remember the Commodore 64 and the VIC-20. The middle school I attended in Idaho Falls, ID had limited internet access for student use provided by the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory so I actually used early 1990s internet a few times before getting AOL at home when I was in high school.

I've also always been interested in technology and history.

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