The Daily Meme #206!

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Converting hive to hbd still isn't profitable, that I can tell.

Selling hive for hbd at 57, then replacing that hive at .62 on the internal market is a sure fire recipe for poverty.

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You could probably arbitrage to external exchanges and make some profits, if you wanted to do that.
If more people did it, the peg would hold better, imo.

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At .57 that's still 70 cents a hive, and you get the HBD for 1.05, so yeah it's still profitable. 57 - 62 is only 5 cents and 1.05 - 1.22 is .17. There is still profit left, ask @themarkymark if you don't believe me. He said in his post a while back as long as HBD is over 1.05 it's profitable, all things remaining equal.
As of 3 days ago I did it and it was profitable, I don't think anything changed really.

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I just did some more, will see. I'm only doing it with little bits because I don't know if the internal market could handle a lot.

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Math isn't my strongest suit, but I can't see how trading out of hive at a price lower than what it costs to get that hive back is bringing a profit.

Maybe Marty will clue us in with a diagram, or something.

It's possible that I have it backwards.

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It's cause the first half they put the 5% fee in, but the 2nd half is a better exchange rate. I don't really know either, it takes a rocket scientist to get this hbd conversion math. There is more to it like the fact that we borrow the HBD which is shorting it and all this stuff. My math originally said the same thing that it wasn't profitable, but then after I kept being surprised getting more back I figured I was missing something. Yeah a diagram, or a formula that we can just plug the numbers in with our scientific calculators lol!!

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Ok, so the way I understand it, we can't be getting hbd at a set price or the numbers wouldn't change.
We should get half of the value, minus the 5%(?), immediately.
We are getting much less than half, as the example above shows.
Then 3 days later we get returned the remainder of the collateral for the hbd loan as hive.
The actual conversion doesn't occur until the collateral is returned.
At which time the average over the last 3.5 days is figured.
If the price goes up, you get more than half the hive back.
If the price goes down, you get less than half back.

Are you still converting?

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Yeah I think I'm going to keep juggling this HIVE and HBD around and around, where it stops nobody knows.

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Let me know if you get back more than you put in.

Time was around here that we would have gotten an answer to our questions, but looks like we might be non-grata.
Hohum,...

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Until I was locked out of high engine I was posting up my own buy and sell orders and working percentages to increase my holdings.

Definitely don't take the loss.

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I bought the dswap.trade bot, it ticks along pretty steadily.

You got locked out of the hive engine?

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Yep I absolutely can't make trades or anything on there I can look at my balance.

Now I have to go through this long drawn out process on Peakd

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Something doesn't sound right about that.
Have you tried signing into the tribaldex.com?

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Yeah I tried working with it and getting all this stuff downloaded and nothing works I'm not sure how to work it and I'm pretty f****** frustrated.

Some major b*******. If I could slap somebody around and beat them into fixing whatever is going on I would be very appreciative.

I had a buddy of mine script me some tools so that I could just stake everything with one move. And now I'm back to having to click and enter passwords and click and enter passwords and click and click and enter click and enter and click and enter it just to make one move....

Personally I'm not happy.

Fuck tribaldex and this entire situation.

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Hivetasks.com, in the balances tab, has a token powerupper.
You can do them all at once, with keychain, anyways.
I don't know about hivesigner, I stopped using it when I got the brave browser.
I'm not sure I would put my keys into hivetasks.com directly.
It may be safe, but better to use keychain, imo.

Violence is probably not the most effective solution, though, its efficiency can be pretty high, if done right.
Kinda hard on the folks around you.

'Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.'

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"Something given has no value. When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force my friends is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived."

  • Jean Rasczak.
  1. "Dizzy Flores: My mother always told me that violence doesn't solve anything.

Jean Rasczak: Really? I wonder what the city founders of Hiroshima would have to say about that.

Jean Rasczak (to Carmen Ibanez): You.

Carmen Ibanez: They wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed."

!!!!!!

And .....

When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.

Or,,,,,,

Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms.

All of these quotes are from Robert Heinlein.

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I've read most of Heinlein.

Opinions are not violence.
If I give you a thumbs down, it's not much of anything, just an opinion.

I do agree that within a statist conception of voting, yes, using violence.
It matters not if the you call the stick you are hitting them with, 'the people's stick'.
They are still getting hit with a stick.

Have you read this one?
I think it is better than 1984.
That it gets no press coverage is telling, to me.

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Actually... Thank you.

I like. And do believe that I have read jack London complete works. However I don't recall this specific one off the top of my head.

However I'm definitely going to check it out and especially see if I can't get a audiobook copy.

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