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I asked Grok AI and it said that HBD rewards don't involve selling HIVE and don't have sell pressure. What do you think of this response, pasted also below: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_2714a428-1eec-481b-a972-2ab7d35256a9
Understanding Hive/HBD Payouts: Does the 50/50 Split Cause Sell Pressure?
Hive's reward system can be confusing, especially when it comes to the 50% HIVE / 50% HBD payout option. Many wonder if this creates automatic sell pressure on HIVE by converting tokens. Let’s break it down and clarify how it works.
How Hive Rewards Work
Hive’s blockchain allocates inflationary tokens to a reward pool for content creators and curators. Rewards are calculated in Hive Token Units (HTU) (~$0.003 per HTU, adjusted by HIVE’s price). After 7 days, authors receive their share with these options:
- 100% HIVE: All rewards as liquid HIVE (stakeable for Hive Power).
- 50% HIVE / 50% HBD: Half as HIVE, half as HBD (stablecoin pegged to ~$1 USD).
- 100% HBD: All rewards as HBD (rarely used).
Does the 50/50 Split Involve Selling HIVE?
No, there’s no automatic selling or conversion of HIVE to HBD. Here’s how it works:
- Reward Calculation: A post’s upvotes determine its payout (e.g., 100 HTU ≈ $0.30 USD).
- Direct Distribution: For 50/50, the blockchain mints:
- 50% as liquid HIVE (e.g., ~8.33 HIVE for 25 HTU).
- 50% as HBD (e.g., ~$0.15 for 25 HTU, pegged to $1).
- Both are sent directly to your wallet—no market transactions.
- HBD Peg Mechanics:
- If HBD > $1, pure HBD is printed.
- If HBD < $1, a HIVE/HBD mix may be used, but still no selling.
- No Forced Sales: Unlike Steem, Hive doesn’t auto-liquidate via its internal exchange. Manual trades (3.5-day delay, ~5% collateral) are needed for conversions.
Example Payout (50/50 Split)
For a 100 HTU (~$0.30 USD) author reward:
| Component | Amount Received | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Liquid HIVE | ~8.33 HIVE (25 HTU) | Minted; can stake for voting power |
| HBD | ~$0.15 (25 HTU) | Minted; stable for withdrawals |
| Total Value | ~$0.30 USD | No fees, direct wallet credit |
Does This Create Sell Pressure?
- Directly? No. The 50/50 split mints HIVE and HBD from the reward pool, adding to supply but not selling HIVE. HBD reduces HIVE inflation compared to 100% HIVE payouts.
- Indirectly? Possibly. Users might sell their liquid HIVE for HBD/fiat, but this is their choice, not automatic. Most HIVE is staked (powered up), limiting sell-offs.
- Bigger Picture: Hive’s ~9.5% annual inflation and power-downs (5% weekly over 2 weeks) drive more sell pressure than reward splits. Daily rewards (~$200K–$500K) are a small factor compared to market trends.
Conclusion
The 50/50 HIVE/HBD payout doesn’t involve selling HIVE—it’s a direct mint from the reward pool. While user behavior (selling HIVE manually) could add pressure, it’s not automatic. For deeper dives, check Hive’s reward docs or track HBD’s backing on hive.supply.
What’s your take on Hive’s reward system? Share below! 🐝
Posted on October 27, 2025. Data based on current HIVE price (~$0.136 USD).
This is erroneous.
99% is the best you can do, if you use reward app.
This is just wrong.
Never has 100% hbd been an option.
I've never used reward app, so maybe you can get it from them, but I doubt it.
The error rate seems to jump off the chart from there.
The math in the first thing it says is wrong.
100htu equates to ~100hbd, not .3, I'm not sure why the differentiation exists, just that it does.
It may have to do with converting rshares from vshares and then to hbd.
In the context of taking the 50/50 and buying hive to power up, that is all fine and good, gives buy pressure and all, but will lose money when the market turns.
However, if you powerup 100%, you don't have to worry about catching the bottom.
Just keep posting and let the power flow.
Maybe the 'its my money and I need it now crowd' won't care either way, but long term holders looking to maximize returns will want to do this for the tiny fraction of an amount of difference that it makes in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah for sure, Grok needs a lot of corrections, will feed these back to it! And yeah main thing is that HBD is printed, so no sell pressure built in but definitely can miss out on price gains!