RE: The Daily Meme #476!
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From what I am getting the sense of now that I started interacting more with the community is that because of all the abuse that has happened many are quick to assume malign intention. There are some cases where it is a noob or someone that just didn’t think whatever they did was a bad thing where it would be good to investigate a little and let them know exactly what they are doing wrong and try not to just destroy them immediately, scaring off creators. I was looking through all the creators on vigilante.tv this morning and found quite a lot that has Hive accounts but are not posting anymore because they were either hammered on Hive or on Steemit and just didn’t want to go on Hive since it is the same whales. I will try and bring them back though.
If you could do that it would be great.
The 'community' back then was far more centralized.
Before the fork anybody that dissented from the autonomous rule of one 'bad whale' was summarily wiped from the pool.
Many people felt his wrath.
That is no longer the situation.
Now we have 'mean whales' that mostly stick to the abusive aspects of flagging.
Upvoting abuse is as much a problem as downvoting.
Few large accounts have/take the time to check for abuse, this is why the community initiatives are so important, average users shouldn't have to check for abuse.
We have the tools, and the people, to keep it in check.
We could use more hp, though.
The rule in the hive is that you can upvote/downvote for any reason whatsoever, and the instances of abuse of that are rare, in my experience.
Any of those folks that mention hive on their shows are a win in my book.
As long as they don't repeat content they should have a pleasant experience this time.
'The community' is much more rational at this moment in time.
I don’t know how it was on HIVE in the beginning but as I just mentioned in a post by @daltono I feel like there is more of an effort here to make some communities within Hive to try and regulate everything in a fair manor in contrast to Steemit that was... Well, really bad.
Hive is a different critter than steemit.
Steemit was a creature of stinc that reset the chain to make sure they controlled the coin.
Hive is more decentralized than that.
The bad whale and bid bots were the first to go.
Stinc gave us linear rewards, bidbots(pay to play), and a two year walkabout by the devs.
Their philosophy was that abusers strengthened the system by presenting issues to be solved by the community, but when they facilitated the abuse they became the issue.
Communities allow us to silo ourselves, I was against them.
Still am, we should learn to work together, imo.
I do see their utility for content aggregation.
No need to look in the hive motors community if I want latte art.
Same with the peertube frontends, great for content locating, but not at the expense of the plagiarism rules.
If we let folks just copy/paste from the web our content would soon be as lacking in value as fedbook or tiktok content.
Of no value outside the intelligence community.
Were the price of hive to moon again payouts get stupid real quick.
If that value goes to folks that did an honest day's work it is a good thing, but if it goes to low effort posts, potentially stolen from the original creator, what is the value of that?
I agree that content not created by the poster can bring value to the chain, but the consensus is that we want proof of brain to be a thing, and that requires original content creators posting original content.
It also means interacting with the commenters.
I've had to stop voting an original creator that creates high value content, mentions the hive in every video, is exactly the type of creator we are looking for, but he is powering down everything we gave him and sending it out to an exchange.
He has a rep over 70 and next to nothing in hive power.
I wish I could sing his praises, but he has sold us down the river.
I have seen some of that. My motives was questioned in a Discord channel by a person worrying it was to get a quick payout. We have never withdrawn accept 1500 hive in 2019, can’t remember why. We are powering up and the only time I powered it down was to get some Hive to try out the Peakd new promotional tool. When I looked at the users account (rep70, I will not mention his name since I don’t want to start anything, just to note I am seeing these things) I saw that he withdraws every week and only has 1.8k Hive Power.
How do you know if the whales just aren't checking or they just are allowing. I reported an account when I was on discord. At the time this person was doing short stints making five, six bucks a stint. Nothing ever happened. Now that account, who by force is on a traveling spree right now, has taken to writing stuff on other area's that don't include her new travels. I know it's them just as I can often times associate multiple avatars as being the same person by their writing style. In their instance they have a quirky opening usually attached. That person highlighted some of the stuff from the article they got the info from but also rephrased or used exact lines from the same article which make it appear they wrote it because it wasn't highlighted. Barely anyone actually reads anybody's stuff, in my opinion, most is just done by upvote trails, with that said chances that anybody is going to click on the link the info came from is slim to none. But hey, they are still making better than five, six or more a post while others, like myself, write original content for pennies on the dollar most times. When stuff like that is allowed to go on it's disheartening to those who work hard at it and it's pretty much a no go to ask them to help fight something that isn't adding up when no one stepped up to stop it in the beginning. If I was making five, six bucks a post I could be real motivated to write everyday, every other day at least. I've been here twice as long as the other account and comparison wise wouldn't say my writing skills were any less of theirs but here I am making pennies while they are making dollars. That's why I spent more time blogging on other platforms than here. The motivation is lacking, you know how many pennies it takes to get to a million? Yeah. That's the problem, they'll be way out ahead of me.
https://discord.gg/tVjRSwTG9v
Drop your links in #reviewforflagging and they will get looked at by the flaggots.
It takes community effort to keep our customs and traditions working, that includes all stakeholders.
If you want more attention, most people get it by commenting on the posts of others and being active in the various discords.